Learning through discipline

Having your finances dry up and noticing the power of the Holy Spirit not flowing through you like it did before, usually is enough for me to wake up and take notice.

” No discipline seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.” (Heb.12:11)

Recently, I have come under a lot of discipline lately for my known disobedience. It has been difficult to suffer through it. I knew from the beginning, what it was that He has disciplined me for. Just this last week, He is now showing me some things regarding His discipline. Today, He spoke to me in such a “father” kind of way. It was really cool.

After realizing the disobedience and repenting of it, I was waiting for His discipline, or as to what the consequences would be. This particular time He said, “You can come out of your room now”. I thought to myself (even laughed), now this is different. I felt like a little boy opening the door and walking out. Then I heard Him say, “now you know what you did, and that I don’t want you to do it again, right?” I said “yes”. He said, “Ok, then no further discipline is needed, right?” I said, “your right”.

Now, even though I am learning more and more about the discipline of the Father, I know from past experiences, that if I mess up again, He will have to then discipline me harder next time, in hope that I will get it. After all, isn’t this what discipline is all about? Learning to not be disobedient again?

Our scripture text said, …. “those who have been trained by it”. Trained by discipline.

“My son, do not despise the chastening(discipline) of the Lord, nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him; (Yes, the Lord can, and does rebuke us) For whom the Lord loves He chastens, and scourges every son whom He receives.” (Heb. 12-5-6)

Now our Lord is sovereign. He alone knows us completely. He knows what exactly what kind of discipline we need for each disobedience. There are those times where he just sends us to our room (so to speak). Then, there are times where He has to “scourge” us. Now, I will keep this part brief, but it must be understood. The word here, “scourge” means, “to flog or whip”. Yes, we can and do receive a “whipping” from God, as He sees what we need. Always remembering, that it is because He loves us, as our scriptures show us.

“If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.” (7-8)

Here it basically tells us that if we don’t “endure the chastening”, then we are not true sons of God. Hard to swallow, I know. Especially in 2010.

“Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect.” (vs.9) Well, first off, this was written when there was such a thing. Father’s disciplined their children. It’s sad today that very little Father’s discipline their children. In most cases, there is not a true father around, in the first place. Secondly, when there is, they give in to the way of the world, such as, “don’t discipline your children, just talk to them”. In many cases, the mother is the one that does all the discipline. The father stands back and lets her do it. Again, the way of the world, not the way of God.

“Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?” (vs.9) Isn’t this what “being trained by discipline” does? It makes us (in the right sence of the word) be in subjection. The self-will fights every inch against this. The flesh will not be in subjection to anything that requires discipline.

“For they (our father’s in the flesh) indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, (to all of us that were blessed to have had father’s that did chasten us) but God does it for our profit, (isn’t that awesome, He does it for our good) Why? that we may be partakers of His holiness.” (vs.10) And of course remember, we can’t see Him without it.

“Now no chastening(discipline) seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.” (vs.11)

So there you have it. Discipline is good for all of us. Especially if we want to be sons and daughters of God the Father.


2 Responses to “Learning through discipline”

  1. timbob Says:

    Good morning. This is a topic that is rarely discussed these days, and yet is a necessary aspect in the life of every saint. We are all in need of correction whenever we get out of sorts or allow things into our lives that are displeasing to God. I know of ongoing situations in this household that are causing problems, but nobody else wants to hear about it. It’s kind of as though people wnat to do their own thing and ask God to bless it rather than seek the Lord and respond according to his will.

    This post also ties in with something that’s been onmy heart for some time and is intended to become a post at some juncture. We tend to look at events from a linear perspective. God sees the whole picture from nbeginning to end and his actions are from an eternal perspective. It’s interesting that, a few minutes ago, before entering the cyberworld, I was thinking about Esau. He sold his birthright for a season of continuance. In the end, he still died; he just put off the inevitable in a way that had everlasting ramifications.

    We need to understand things from an eternal perspective. Some things are indeed linear, such as being about our Fathers business with the understanding that we are not promised a tomorrow in this place. (And even this is eternal as only what’s done for Christ for last.) But to look beyond the day to day is imperative.

    Thanks for taking time to discuss this topic. Blessings always in Jesus name.


  2. Richard Says:

    Good reminder on the “linear perspective”. So true! If we are not careful, we think we are going to be around for some time to come. Living in the spiritual changes that thought. Our spirit can grasp the spiritual. So, if we live in the Spirit we are moved into the realm of “eternal perspectives”.
    Thanks brother for your insight!
    Blessings to ya!

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